A subculture within a subculture: the Constant Pull of Power

A guest blog entry by “hatersgonnarotate” (student, gamer, world citizen)

We are the most beautiful people at the parties.  We are models, we are alcoholics.   We are stoners.   We are the girls at the club that are taking your guys.   We are also the hermits that stay inside all day and play world of war craft.  We are the boys who can’t talk to a girl without freaking out.  We are the ones who go to anime conventions.

We are gamers, anime nerds , losers, and weeaboos.   Either way we our our own subculture.  Some of us keep this subculture hidden from the world, while others wear it proud.   The important thing to know is we are here.   What you don’t know about us “losers” is that there are dozens of subcultures within our world.

If I wanted to I could break it down into about ten levels of Nerdiness, but instead I’ll sum it up in just a paragraph.

There are two polar opposites within this subculture.  There’s the good-looking, handsome, educated, and great with social skills group.  This group generally blends into society.  They dress nice, and have lots of friends.  You probably wouldn’t even question their interests because they seem so normal.  You see the stereotype for gamers tends to be overweight, anti-social men, and I can tell you we are not ALL anti-social overweight men.

There is also the group of people that do conform to the stereotype.  This group tends to play World of War Craft, spending much of their time watching anime.

Just like high school each group has separated themselves into cliques.  The popular clique forces members that are not like them out of the group.  Even though each member may have the same exact interest those who are not worthy of the popular clique are exiled.  The popular ones will then proceed to bully and laugh at those who are not.  The non-popular group will then begin to hate the other.

You see, the lesson is: even though society may view something as weird or different, the dynamics of cliques still exist.  The structure of society dominates, even on the small scale, forcing those of a higher social class or knowledge into that of a position of power within the subcultures of gamers.  While those who are not get forced down to the bottom, no different from the standard societal culture.

In the end our humanity all drives us to be the same.  If you are not good-looking or social you get tossed to the bottom of the heap.  Ultimately, this may force into existence the very subcultures mainstream society often wants to deny even exists.  And all the subculture can do is recreate societies social order within itself, mirroring the expectations and power struggles of society as a whole, just within new boundaries.

Think about it….

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51 thoughts on “A subculture within a subculture: the Constant Pull of Power

  1. This is very true. Society is based on standards and those people the society accept are able to live their lives comfortably if they go and follow their rules and regulations and if a family or person not able to follow those man made rules then it would be hard for the person to survive. But one thing we forgot that all these rules and laws are man made and man can do mistakes so whatever the subcultures are being produced it would be accepted with the time. As the time changes those things that once forbidden would suddenly being accepted and you will be amazed. Like we have never heard before that Santa Clause has a wife but later it was the production of the society which was then accepted.

  2. I agree with the author. Cliques are a part of life and it seems that even though I have left high school they are still active to differing degrees. I think as the person ages, they tend to be more focused on who they are within themselves as opposed to who they are to other people. Society has to make a conscious effort to not categorize people based on appearances or other superficial means. It probably is natural to try to conform to the larger society’s culture or even the subculture the author describes because it will be an ‘easier’ life. It can also be freeing to just be yourself and enjoy being yourself.

    1. I agree with what your saying completely. I myself do not conform to society completely. Ive found a perfect balance between society and myself. Like you said i enjoy myself and I’m proud to be me. But I think the main issue here is although we still may find love within ourselves people do not view us the same. They cannot judge us based on these internal feelings and because of this it creates a huge problem.

      1. Yes! It is same thing for me. There are certain social norms that I do follow and have to adjust but somewhere I always try to look for “a perfect balance between the society and myself”. Nobody is the same and everyone should be treated as an individual at all times. Comparatively to other countries, United States is still pretty darn good at that.

      2. Only the weak have to follow the crowd or follow trends. I think it is best to try to be the least conformed to society, that is when creativity and ingenuity flourish. don’t follow the beaten path, follow your own path, you will have more fun.

      3. Naturally so nick’, the less we conform, the less we follow, and the less we borrow, the more we are required to create on our own. This path leads to further variation, and a more unique design, however this will also commonly lead to far greater difficulties. We borrow from and build upon the past, as well as the present, trying to create a beautiful piece of art without the use of chiaroscuro, for example will yield your own result, but it may be viewed as lesser than its competition, so to say. As ‘krew and popo’ said, the a certain balance is needed, it’s not something you can do all on your own.

      4. Yes! We should just initially love who we are and accept it. There is so many different types of people in this world who form into groups who are nothing alike with them, yet somehow fit perfectly because they laugh at the same things, tho they may not dress the same, they may enjoy the same sports, yet one plays the video games of the sport while the other plays it, it won’t matter because we tend to find some kind of connection. As long as we are happy with ourselves we will find the right people to hang around. People just need to understand that if you step outside the boundaries and try to talk to other people who seem different then you, they shockingly may end up being a best friend you never had. Ive seen with my own eyes with my brother. He was mr. “star football player” all through high school and now being 26 his best friend is the kid in high school who was known as a “loser”. Yet my brother was never a bully, he still was open to meeting new people. That just comes to show that being open to others they may end up being your best friend till the end.

  3. I think it’s safe to say we have all been apart of this first hand either from one side or the other. Cliques are going to continue throughout society and it looks like their is no social change coming anytime soon. Conformity is the only way we can get by today. As a person progresses through life they are faced with new or different conformity that they must adhere to in order to further themselves in their specific environment, the problem goes beyond high school and the youth. Adults are susceptible to these same cliques. More than often if they do not conform they are burden with greater resentment and punishment than their youth counterparts. I think the greatest enabler of this type of mindset we as a society hold to individuals is because of the major influence the media. The media in all forms constantly points out these stereotypes and subcultures and labels them as either normal or dysfunctional or unacceptable. This makes us as a society immediate to act on these stereotypes and judge for these surface value differences rather then looking at the persons inner qualities. All in all we value what we can see on the outside and i feel society needs a change to judge by our inner qualities. Sadly the media and society value conformity greatly and no change seem close or may never happen.

  4. Personally I have been very affected by stereotypes. In high school, I was really into smoking pot and doing drugs. My high school labeled me as a stoner, I never had a problem with it because I knew that’s what I was. At the end of my senior year I went into rehab to get help. I shed my addiction and I thought the stereotype would be gone, too, I was wrong. To this day, because of the music I listen to and the clothes that I wear, people call me a stoner. This is very difficult for me because I worked hard to overcome this stereotype and it still haunts me to this day.

  5. First I would like to clarify that antisocial is a personality disorder and can otherwise be knowns as a sociopath or psychopath. I understand completely about stereotyping and this group of “gamers” that get looked at in a certain light but I think a better term would be ‘asocial’ or not social/unwilling to conform to “normal” social behavior. Cliques, to me, seem to just be a part of life. In an ideal world we would all be raised to be accepting of everyone and give everyone a chance to prove our initial judgements wrong (or right if they were positive judgements) but this is not an ideal world and people are going to judge. I know that I judge people based on first appearance but I like to think that I have an open enough mind to get to know the person before deciding where to go from there. Not everyone will get along with each other but that is not grounds for harassment, etc. Why people cannot just leave another person alone and, when interaction is necessary, be civilized and treat them as a human being, I will never understand. We not want to be friends with everyone but that doesn’t mean we need to be hateful towards them either.

  6. Cliques are never going to be extinguished. Conformity is the only way we can get by today. Everywhere you go, everyday, someone is stereotyping you. One of the main feelings that people want to feel is the feeling of acceptance. Accepted by one; accepted by many. We cannot control who in society will accept us yet those who we want to accept us, we try a little harder. Although we may find acceptance in ourselves, and love ourselves for who we truly are inside, others may not have the same perspective.

  7. The author of this blog hit a very interesting topic. Cliques are everywhere on all types of levels. From childhood to adulthood. I’ve found for myself never ever staying within one clique for too long. I watch anime sometimes and have since I was 14. I’m very picky on what I watch though. I learned in that there was a subculture there that I never felt I belonged with. I used to play World of Warcraft too. Even though I was into the story and lore, the subculture that was involved was very ignorant and acted like elitist jerks. I just liked to play sometimes but felt alienated and cast out from them because I wasn’t into it for the same reasons as them. The funny thing is these groups of people create their own cliques–whether it be gaming or whatever– and pass false judgement on those who share the same interests just like the greater society would do on them. For example, they have to be dedicated in a certain way or look a certain way etc. Even with music. I used to hang with metal heads cause I like listening to metal. Yet, they were the most narrow-minded people I knew. Now, I just walk to my own song. I stay away from cliques and social clubs. They only hold me back from being who I am.

  8. I think when it comes to cliques, social learning ( ie play time with others) should be established as young as possible. The best way to look at it, is in dogs. Yes, dogs. If you have a puppy that goes to obedience class or the park to meet other dogs, animals, types and ages of people, then you will have a very well socialized dog that will not start problems with others.

    In relation to children (into adults), the best way would be to do relatively the same. Day care camps allow the possibility to get a child to see that there are different type of people in the world. Personally, I was part of both social groups mentioned. I was a high school cheerleader, member of JROTC, and “nerd” that enjoyed to play World of Warcraft (especially through several knee injuries where I couldn’t move from one location). I don’t have a problem with any type of people and even when people look as if they are completely different from me, I still give them the opportunity of being friends.

  9. I have to agree with this author as well. Unfortunately, cliques will always be around. I do have to say that I feel that cliques become less and less as we get older. I remember the cliques in middle school and high school being a lot more apparent than they are now, and I am in college. It is sad that people cannot be understanding and accepting of each other. Who cares if one person is interested in something that someone else isn’t.

  10. I couldn’t agree more with the author. I have had my share of experience with what he was talking about. In high school, when I was a freshman, I was in the group of alternative/emo/goth/theater/choir kids. Yeah, I know a broad span, but we all got along strangely. But within all of this, there was monarchy, heirarchy, and dominance struggles. Within every group of people, no matter if your in the ‘geek’ group, hang with the ‘athletes’, whatever you are, there’s going to be competition, and there’s going to be seperation of who’s better and who’s not. Without a doubt it always happens. It may have something to do with conflicting personality types, it may have something to do with the need for power. I am not sure, but what I am sure of is that this is so true.

  11. I simply do agree with this blog. Our society classes those of better looks and money at the top, and those who are thought of as not as beautiful and with less money are thrown to the bottom. And once at the bottom it is difficult to work your way up, although it is possible, that type of progression is usually associated with earning more money. In every aspect of life there are social classes. There are social classes in sports, school, band, clubs, communities, churches, etc. We, as a society, rank ourselves into these classes where we see fit. I feel that no matter what class we are associated to be in, that we always work hard to better ourselves and accomplish our own goals.

    1. I completely agree with you Daniella. It is really sad how important money is in our society. I agree that people with lots of money and good looks are the ones that everyone seems to want to set their goals out to be. A lot of people cant just be satisfied with their lives and always wanting someone elses life. People seem to play the “if” game a lot.. ex: “if i had this money i could… if i was this pretty i could date….” Sometimes people need to stop and realize all that they do have. People freak out about social classes way to much, like its the craziest thing if a “geek” hangs out with a “jock”. People are always trying to get to the highest social class in their mind and working towards getting more power.

  12. Cliques are a totally natural part of life. It doesnt surprise me at all that even the anime kids have them too. I think it really comes down to your social skill set. If you are the type of person that attracts people around you, whatever you choose to do, people are gonna be attracted to you. If you are the quiet shy type and do not have an expressive personality, then you might find yourself chillin with other people like you who dont have alot of friends. Unfortunately, due to all of the factors which make kids who they are, kids choose to be disclusionary, so i dont believe that cliques are’nt going anywhere anytime soon.

  13. I find this very true. Society seems to be too big for even itself. Subcultures happen naturally with no effort applied. Because we live in an idealistic society, power is distributed to those who are closest to the ideal. Why we let this happen we will never know, but the effects of it are all too real. Another contributor to this is our need to compare ourselves to those around us. For those who decide that they are better than someone at something, it may go to their head, and they may try to dominate over that person. Unfortunately, this is all too common. This specifically relates to the bullying aspect of the article. If the need for dominance begins to become a part of someone’s personality, it can become more and more frequent. This can lead to power and dominance becoming a growing issue. This spread of hatred is what births these divisions of subcultures in the first place. People know where they are not welcome and will go elsewhere to find where they are wanted. To end on a good note, this is good for diversity of people and thoughts or ideas that may come from either subculture.

  14. As a member of COD’s Fantasy/Sci-Fi Club, I can vouch for the existence of cliques in the subculture. At meetings, I sometimes feel excluded because the other members have known each other for longer. I also do not have the disposable income to afford modern video games, so I feel excluded from that “sub-subculture.” I thus feel a separation from other members of the group for both social and material reasons. Though I found a group to play D&D with through the club, I still feel like an outsider at its meetings.

  15. I agree, society has always put a label on different cliques. It’s unfortunate that society can’t just accept the fact that these are simple interests. It’s seems as if we like sports then it’s acceptable it’s not judged. But for those who have these interest or hobbies that are unfamiliar then others make too much of an effort to point out how different it might be. People need to understand that there are so many personalities out there and that technically we are all different in our own way.

  16. This is very true, in that in many online social groups try to hide lower group subsections out of embarrassment. I am a Brony (unisex label for a person who likes the show “my little pony: friendship is magic”) and I am quite proud of it, many are not so much, because society labels the show incorrectly as a little girls show but, that is not the point. The point is because this large internet social group wants to keep a good social image with the rest of the world, they proudly display the artists, the charity groups, and the conventions; but the group hides the people who fetishize the characters or write violent stories, and label them as parts of groups lower on the internet social scale (furies or a beastiality fetishist). I have seen firsthand through thread posts and website moderation, this attempt to combat/hide these subgroups and I do agree it would be horrible for young children to accidently view this material; but I think people should be entitled to their own weird ways without being ostracized. Now I do see them as “weird” and a little strange, but I think people need to be more tolerant and allow others to do as they feel, even if they view the other persons… pleasure as being wrong or just plain weird.

  17. I find this article very interesting. I agree that there is this stereotype associated with people who play World of Warcraft and watch anime. We associate them as loser and overweight (because people assume they just sit around all day) and unattractive. I don’t think you could ever judge anyone by how they look and the activities they do. Just because someone may be considered “unattractive” doesn’t mean they play World of Warcraft, and just because someone is “attractive” doesn’t mean they don’t play it. We need to stop judging people in our society by the stupid stereotypes we learn in high school, and start to get to know people for who they are before we have these pre-judgements of them.

  18. I agree in that the nerd subculture splits into various subcultures of its own. Even those subcultures have subcultures. The gaming subculture splits into video gaming, card gaming, and role playing. Each of those have their own subcultures, though people can be in various of those cliques. Having been in nerd culture, I’ve noticed that even the more social people of the nerd culture, are usually more social with other nerds than with other subcultures of the larger American culture.

  19. I agree with the idea that people get tossed downward even if they dont want to be put into a certain subculture. I was once part of the gamers subculture and do believe also that one could get out of that and move into a different subculture. One way could be if they were good at something like instrument or sports. Good looks has some to do with the society automatically putting them on a higher subculture but one could rise above that if they were determined enough and worked at something long enough. American society is very focused on the now media and what is trending so maybe the nerd subculture could be starting to be more popular. Even today its hard to believe that someone can make a living playing games professionally but it can be done. The two cultures gamers and nerds and the good looking and good social skills should be there so that American High schools can be more diverse and the interests of every one could be satisfied.

  20. It is sad to say but you are exactly right. The cliques that tormented many throughout the years of high school still do in fact exist. We all were under the impression that we would leave the silly high school drama behind as we walked across that stage at graduation, but I believe we were lied to. It has been clear that within society today, the powerful and most influential people tend to be those of the “good looks” and popular cliques. Even within my workplace, I have seen and witness management judge and determine the service quality that they are about to offer depending on if the customer appears to be attractive or not. It seems that if the customer is not to their standard they will pass him/her off to the next available employee or quickly act busy. Witnessing this on a day to day basis I find absolutely ridiculous because the people who are receiving the cold shoulder from my management have received this “act” before. These “good” people, both warm hearted and just waiting for acceptance are treated with less respect because of their looks?? Sounds little bit like discrimination, but NO we don’t do that anymore…year right.

    1. I would imagine that’s more of the people themselves treating customers with such acts, not as much the clique they belong to. By which I simply mean I haven’t seen this happen as much at my workplace, at least not to my knowledge, or simply around in general. Maybe I don’t pay much attention in that respect, but even so, we have many strange people, good looking or otherwise, come into our store, and most often I see them treated with the same amount of care. I myself, will always try to treat them all equally of course, although some of the more awkward ones can make you feel uncomfortable, an aura which may cause you yourself to function differently, which can of course give varying results, but I don’t feel these situations are drastic enough to merit simply ignoring a customer. “We are employees, we are meant to leave ourselves at the door, and perform our job as professionals.” Although such absurd comments from management may never be realistic, I still believe both in myself and in my co-workers to behave as we are expected while on the job, both by the customer, the company and society. My sincerest apologizes in tail however, because I do understand that the world is not always run in this fashion.

  21. I really enjoyed this article and completely agree with its points. Just being fresh out of high school looking back I would never want to go back. Being a Varsity cheerleader through my high school career pushed me above that point even when I wasn’t interested in being there. Your group of friends determined who you are regardless if you didn’t take part in the things they did. What you wore, how you talked, what you did in high school automatically placed you into a role in which you had to fill. The popular kids would hang out with the popular kids and shun the rest of the school. Being placed into that group myself gave others an idea of me that was nowhere near true. I believe being who you are is the best thing a person can do no matter what the pressures in society are but in a high school setting I can understand how that can be hard. A perfect representation of subcultures splitting into subcultures is walking into the lunch room and observing all the tables. There you will see exactly where each subculture stands.

    1. I think it is funny how futile High School cliques are and how a person can only see that now after they have left High School. Also how High School is the epicenter of Cliques and their operations. It’s quite entertaining to observe if you can remove yourself from cliques.

  22. Humans have the desire to belong and they would almost do anything to be part of the group they see as the most desirable. But I think as we age we tend to me more true to ourselves and care less what people think of us. Its a shame that we are still divided and as human beings we can’t interact without judging. I’ve been part of different subcultures and to be honest there are so many interesting people in each and every one of them. I don’t like placing an individual into a certain group for I know what isolation feels like and its not pretty. I hope one day we can destroy these invisible barriers that don’t only us to progress but instead suppress us.

  23. Personally I only see the structure being formed on looks and charisma on a high school, premature level. I think in my experiences that even in that stage of life, most people within your sub culture would treat you equally. If anything, it was the people in other cliques, the jocks, the talkers or popular girls, and so on. But on that note, I’d like to take a small note from a funny tune – “Sometimes you have to suffer a little in your youth, to motivate yourself to succeed in later life” (Lazyboy – Underwear goes inside the pants)
    Frankly, in later life, I feel the sub cultures drift apart from one another, as a unit, we as gamers don’t often communicate with non gamers, and by that form we do still have a structure. Within the culture, if by any means, I feel we only subject each other to punishment or ridicule if we do not meet the standards of the culture, not by look, but by idea, a gamer who can go 15 kills and 1 death in a FPS is more highly revered than someone who often goes 1 kill and 15 deaths. If we create a stratification system at all, I would expect it to be built on similar standards, people able to play guitar or deeply analyze musics are more respected in some music cultures, people who don’t dress up in a mascot outfit might be considered lesser in the furry community, and people who have not seen ever episode of the new My Little Pony show are likely non believes among the MLP cults, to name a few cultures I am aware of. It’s the meanings of the culture that define how well we fit in, not so much the way we are shaped, speak, look, live, etc, that determine how well we are accepted. This is an idea I would especially support with all the internet communication today, as for gamers, we don’t often care who we play with online, we will yell at them if their ignorant, or befriend them if their powerful or fun to play with, we don’t know who is on the other line, and we don’t care.

  24. I agree with you that most people try to hide their specific subculture. I even try to hide my specific sub culture, I try not to tell people anything about the things I do or like. I am confused by the necessity of the first paragraph, or maybe I just don’t get it. I always thought that cliques were strange and unnecessary, I didn’t confine myself to one clique in high school but I still had my main group that I spent most of my time with. it is strange how humans tend to create groups then confine themselves to them as to protect themselves.

    1. Birds of a feather ^.^ Is it really that strange? As a defense mechanism, or as a common trait, I believe it’s quite natural for us to band as one, joining forces with like minds to stave an uncomfortable environment or scenario. We were taught in class that we are always on stage, that we never can truly relax and be behind the curtain, but the closer we get to that oneness, the closer we are to those that understand us better, the more relaxed we can be, the more comfortable we can live. No? In that too though, it saddens me somewhat when people hide themselves like that, myself included, many are afraid of rejection, but the only way to find others of your kind is to open up.

  25. I think cliques only exist because people choose to think of them as such. When I see a group of guys who probably like playing video games, I don’t think of them as gamers and start to draw other conclusions about their personalities. I simply see their love for video games as one part of their personality, they probably have strong views on several other things! Their life cannot be constrained to one aspect. Also, although it is true that most people stay within their comfort zone, I was one of those kids in high school who tried to merge these groups of people. My group of friends was filled by completely different people, athletes, stoners, and actors and we got along fine, so i tried to show other people that they could too! ( I didn’t have any success but it’s possible!)

    1. That is kind of interesting actually, the idea of removing the categorization and recruiting all types of friends. Though of course when we group people up by hobby, we should all still understand that that’s not the only thing they do, nor will those of that category always fit some simplistic stereotype, but even so, the idea of grouping alone still divides us to a degree. I alone already often push away others who I don’t view as part of my own kind, those who don’t have a similar hobby or style on which we could communicate, but this is something I know I need to grow out of, there’s always amazing people in every sub culture that we will never truly become aware of if we do not allow ourselves to know them.

  26. This is entirely true. I believe that society has it’s strict guidelines and standards that, although we hate to admit, can force people to the bottom of society based on looks, social class, and even hobbies. As this article explains high school students, the people considered “popular” were good looking and wealthy. They were not always the smartest or the nicest, but that is how society works. I think that the only real way to balance society and yourself is to be yourself. You are unique and different than everyone else and society will work with that to help you become successful in a way of your own.

    1. Everyone has things that are good and bad about them. People compensate for being bad at something by being good in another. As the old saying goes, nobody is perfect. Your friends and community get past the things they do not like about you, and really bring out the good. People are always at their best when the good is brought out. It makes them shine like the sun, and will generally make them feel better about themselves as a whole. I really wish that society could one day function as though we attempt to accept everyone and give them a chance, but we are far from it.

  27. Every person ends up going through different cliques in life trying to find themselves. Growing up you don’t know who you are and are just trying to find where you belong. Then there are times when someone feels as if they fit into multiple groups of people and just can’t find their place. Society makes these groups because they want people to follow the accepted norms but sometimes it just doesn’t work for everyone, and no one should get put down because of it. Yes cliques help in terms of finding out where you fit in best, but the ridicule that comes from being on the ‘lower spectrum” can be damaging to someone’s health.

  28. I agree with the fact that if someone is good looking or has good social skills it does not matter what they are interested in or what they enjoy doing, they are considered normal. I think, however, the idea of cliques has changed a lot over the years. If you take a movie like The Breakfast Club, it has the basic cliques that someone thinks of when they hear high school, but cliques have gotten more complicated than that. The modern day high school groups are better depicted in the movie Mean Girls when the new girl is being shown around the cafeteria and every different lunch table represented a different clique that she would never be accepted into. It seems like now-a-days there are subcultures in every clique, not just with the nerds. For example, the Jocks. There are the jocks who are straight A students, then there are the stoner jocks, then there are the mean jocks, and then there are the student council jocks. There are so many different types of personalities that it seems like each clique melts into the other. I think the defining thing that would keep someone out of a clique in today’s society, or at least in my high school, was money. If you didn’t have money, you didn’t have a place in my high school. Personally, I was never a part of a clique because I was friends with a little bit of everybody. Sometimes, being a floater in school is the best option.

    1. When looking into cliques I forgot about The Breakfast Club and how basic the cliques were. Now, I would like to say that the lines of popularity and cliques are a bit smudged. I’ll admit there are still jocks and mean girls; but with all of the technology today and people sharing about themselves, it reminds me of 21 Jumpstreet the movie. Where the popular kinds were actually smart and cared about the environment.

      1. That is a very good connection with the film 21 jump street. I remember Channing Tatum immediately tries to bully someone and is viewed as extremely hostile and uncool. That is truly amazing that our societies have shifted in some beneficial way nowadays. While it is just a movie, I have seen this in my life as well. When I was in middle school, these boys would call a mentally handicapped girl “The Witch” because she would make loud screams. This was obviously not her fault at all, that girl then went on to be renowned in our grade. The boys were then brought to justice and cast out of groups for being extremely rude to the mentally handicapped.

    2. Staying neutral with your peers in high school is a fine idea. Unfortunately, I went through a lot of high school scowling and acting like I did not like anyone. But during senior year, I began to look closer at the people I had spent the last four years with and realized they are really good people. They all gave off good vibes and really just wanted to get to know others as much as I did. I realized meeting new people was a source of happiness for me. Meeting new people is always a great feeling for me, especially if I have a lot in common with them.

  29. Society is based on standards and those people the society accept are able to live their lives comfortably if they go and follow their rules and regulations and if a family or person not able to follow those man made rules then it would be hard for the person to survive. Its a shame that we are still divided and as human beings we can’t interact without judging. People should not feel entitled to being a part of something when the label does not matter. In order to be someone, you have to be yourself and meet people who appreciate you for who you are and not for what you pretend to be. That is the key because people love a honest person over someone who tries to be a follower.

  30. People would not think that a culture like gamers would segregate amongst themselves. Especially when people bring up World of Warcraft and then everyone thinks of a person with terrible hygiene, acne, and overweight. It is also kind of bizarre when people look amazing and actually have a social life, many would not image that this is the same person that is probably making walkthrough video for a popular game that just hit the shelves. Judging one another on the level of “Nerdiness” and exiling one of your own is what creates prejudgments

  31. I am a nerd. I have spent my entire life being a nerd. I cosplay comic-cons, I play video games, I play trading card games, I read so many comics, etc. From what I am observing in my lifetime, this dichotomy between awkward nerds and social nerds is fading. At this point it is almost non-existent. As superhero movies become more popular, society has embraced nerds. We have been able to come out of our shell. And the internet also helped. It showed us nerds that we are not alone, that there are other people with our interests. Being a nerd is becoming more acceptable, celebrated, and indicative of the zeitgeist of America.

    1. Thank you! This is killer. With the uprising of accessibility with gaming as well as Marvel movies blowing up, the “Nerd” subculture is much more open. It is very refreshing especially when you meet someone else that enjoys the same video games as you. It really does reinforce what could be a new friendship. Even today, the bias that video games being only for boys is breaking as well.

  32. This is a very true concept that should be brought up more often. No matter what subculture you are a part of, there is always a high class, and a low class. It is unfortunate, but that is how society has created cultures. In this day and age, there must always be a top and a bottom. I would yearn to be that guy that everyone would want to hangout with. But on further inspection, I realized I have friends that care about me. I would take a handful of quality friends over meaningless relationships with everyone in my class. If I want a friendship, I would make it meaningful. Without meaning, what is a friendship?

  33. I am in agreement with you. No matter what subculture you’re in, you are cool. It’s just a matter of personal interests and opinions on what’s “normal” and “cool.” I love the show Big Bang Theory, and that show demonstrates the stereotypes of the “smart nerds” and they are just so funny. I love that show. There’s the great Sheldon, Leonard, Raj, and Howard… and then there’s Penny, the “hot blonde” across the hall. She’s the “popular” and “normal” one, and her and Leonard being in a relationship together shows the unity of the two “polar worlds.” In general, I think no matter what people’s interests and mannerisms are, they are cool in their own way, because everyone has the choice and freedom to be the way they want to be.

  34. Cliques do not exist. It’s a simple construct of the mind that can be infiltrated at any time, by anyone who is good enough at faking an interest. Human beings are like chameleons. Exposure over time can lead to a genuine appreciation of said interest and therefore may seem harder to separate oneself from a group, but nonetheless can be done. I am an advocate of breaking down barriers and it’s more than possible. All you have to do is find a group, insert yourself, and BAM! Before you know it, you’re apart of this so called “clique”. So it isn’t really a clique, or exclusive group, at all. I’ve done this and called it tactical espionage. It doesn’t have to be for sinister/ulterior motives either. It can be, simply because you feel you’d enjoy being with different people. Explore my friends. #CIALevel

  35. As people we divide ourselves based on interests. These interests are based off our cultural identity and who define ourselves as being along with what we want to be. This leads people into finding an interest that strongly relates to who they wish to be as a person. Not quoting the movie by the same title, but it’s all in the pursuit of happiness. Our interests make us happy. If we weren’t interested in things like anime or video games then we would not see groups like the ones you listed because we wouldn’t find happiness in them. This pursuit of happiness then leads us to form communities where happiness is formed by shared interests and since humans desire to belong or be apart of a group. The different groups such as gamers, weeaboos, and even the “popular kids” are formed because of this and, thus our society becomes stratified as you stated.

  36. Cliques have been a constant obstacle for me over the past few years. Based off of my own experience, I would not necessarily base the formation of cliques on attractiveness or popularity, but the extent to which one reveals their humanity. Consider this: when was the last time you saw a popular person with the in-crowd make a mistake and own up to it, or admit that they were wrong about something, or show an outburst of emotion? The people in the inner circles are noticed for their attractiveness, yes, and this in part of why they have such a group around them, but these are just symptoms of an underlying issue: real humanity is unattractive. The people who belong to the in-crowd are constantly trying to hide all their flaws, to make it appear that they have their lives together, that they do not make mistakes. Who would want to hang out with someone who messes up sometimes, or doesn’t know what they want to do in life? The people who find themselves on the outside of cliques, feeling left out, are often the kinds of people who accept their humanity and see no need to hide it.

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