Social Justice is Keyed Together by Communication.

A guest blog entry by Nathan Kraus (student, guitarist, world citizen)

In common life problems are solved with problem solving and communication.  A major problem in social justice today is Police profiling. Police profiling is finding certain individuals or categorizing individuals into what seems to be “a bad profile”.  For many individuals profiling seems unjust, and it is in the communication between the citizen and the officer that is the problem.

Living in a town with the only trouble seeming to be rowdy high school students and petty theft, officers of the law have nothing better to do than profile teenagers.  When I was sixteen I was followed by an undercover squad car from one side of town to the other.  I was finally pulled over a quarter mile from my home and the officer asked me to step out of the car.

I was searched and my vehicle was searched.

I didn’t even get a reason why I had been pulled over or why my car should be searched.  After all was said and done the officer let me go with no charges.  I finally asked why I had been pulled over and the officer searched for an idea and pointed to my air freshener.  I knew it was because I was a high school student supposedly up to no good.

This is an example of mis-communication being unjust.  I wasn’t even questioned or talked to before my car had been searched.  This is a simple example of how officers in my town are unjust to the teen age population.  This profiling can feel completely unjust when you really have no word to speak.  I feel teens should learn their rights so they can than further themselves in communication with the law.

Simply improving the ability to use communication for social justice, because after all it is only through communication that we can have true social justice.

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47 thoughts on “Social Justice is Keyed Together by Communication.

  1. I honestly do not think it is an issue with communication within the cops. I, being a Mexican-American in this country, know and have experienced profiling in depth. Police officers today have to meet quotas and, of course, they aim for those easy targets [or so they think]. The realization that the United States has come to this in order to provide a form of ‘social justice’ is completely inadequate and something needs to be done to fix this. I completely agree with you about the reasons why these cops pull innocent individuals over. Sadly, I believe that it has already become fact rather than stereotypes in this country. I mean, who is more likely to get pulled over, a mid-aged white male going 10 over the speeding limit, or an eighteen-year-old Mexican-American driving a beat-up Monte Carlo? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

  2. There is one part of this article that is key and I feel needs to be addressed. The sentence is: “I feel teens should learn their rights so they can than further themselves in communication with the law.” The reason I feel this is such an important sentence, is because it seems that many people, such as lawyers and police, and also many companies, take advantage of people who don’t know their rights as citizens. The police constantly do this when demanding an answer to questions even though the person has the right to remain silent AND a right to an attorney. Companies often do this by including disclosures in tiny print that they know most people will overlook until it is too late. And lawyers do this all of the time by finding ways around the system to make their case.

  3. I agree with what this article and Mitch said – that it is important for citizens to know their rights. But the problem with that is that sometimes it does not make a difference. If you know your rights and a police officer does something to violate those rights and you call them out on it, do you honestly think that will stop them? A common problem with police officers is that they abuse their power. Police officers are known to think that they are above the law & do what they want-so do you think they’ll care when you tell them they can’t do something they are doing? Of course not. As Daisy said, they have quotas to meet, so they will do whatever they need to do their job. I’m not saying all police officers are like that, there are officers out there who truly want to do good and stick by the rules, and I will always respect any police officer I come in contact with because if I need help, they will be the who I call and their job is respectable. BUT you can’t help but wonder the real motive behind the work the police do when you hear things on the news about police brutality, profiling, & officers who get away with crimes simply because they are police.

    The root of the problem is within the officers themselves and their departments, not between the officer and citizen.

    1. I do agree with some of what your saying, but I still feel that knowing your rights will help a lot. The thing to remember is that most squad cars today have cameras in them that record everything that is happening… If you were to point out when an officer violates your rights… It is possible that he won’t care, but since those videos are viewable by courts and higher authorities, most police officers know this and that is what helps keep them in order. Often when someone tries to bribe a cop out of a ticket or something, the officer replies “all of this is being recorded.”

      1. Yeah you’re right that things are caught on camera, and police are SOMETIMES sensitive to that fact. But not always. Rodney King – perfect example. I believe the video of his beating was taken by a bystander, but even still, there were a number of police officers involved, so where were the recordings from the cameras in their cars? And think about it…even after there was video proof of the beating, the police officers involved were acquitted.

        Like I said, I have a lot of respect for police officers and appreciate what they do, but we cannot be so naïve. A police officer is just as likely to shoot a citizen for no reason just like a citizen can shoot a police officer for no reason also. We should know our rights, but I feel that the police need to understand and respect OUR rights as citizens as well.

      2. I see your point… I wonder when I see any of those police chase shows, all of the things that they don’t show and the people they don’t show who got away. After all, if they only show clips where the people are caught and keep saying ‘crime doesn’t pay’, they make it appear as if no one ever gets away and help prevent anyone else from such deviance through fear.
        I do agree that police sometimes don’t even care that the police cars have cameras and that police are often much more rough than need be. However, I believe that it is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. After all, think of swine flu… It has killed roughly 1 to 700 to that of the regular flu, and yet the regular flu goes unnoticed. The relevance of this is that the bad police in the world could (and I say could) be a similar number, but, just like swine flu, we only focus on the 1 bad instead of everyone else.

      3. You make a good point, Mitch. I learned in an applied psychology class last semester that we as Americans, and human beings, tend to focus more on the bad news then the good. We see one cop who gets in trouble for using excessive force and we assume all must be that way: yet there are plenty of cops who do good. Perfect example of a stereotype: All police are crooked. We cannot assume that all police have ulterior motives and are bad people -but- as news of cops that are simply bad people continues to be on the rise, you cannot help but wonder if all that power they are given has gone to their heads and if there is anything we as American citizens can do anything about it.

      4. I agree. I have a question for you though… Many people agree that women police officers are much worse than males because of the fact that, until recently, they were not permitted to be in such positions of power. What is your opinion?

      5. I like that question, because I’ve always heard the same thing.

        I think that the reason that women police offciers may be considered worse than men is because they feel they have to prove themselves. They work in a field that is predominently male, and the majority of offenders are male as well. I think that in order for them to be taken seriously, they need to act tough…very tough. Think of any field (that requires physical work especially) that is predominantly male, and look at the women who also work in that field…they always seem to give off the impression that they are tough, in some cases, tougher than the males they work with.

        It’s no secret that in our society women are often viewed as sex objects, so I think that female police officers try to stay as far away from that idea as possible in order for them to get the respect they deserve.

        So yes, I’d say that the fact that they were never permitted to be in those positions until recently is related to the impression people get that females cops are worse than males. It’s simply because they have a lot of catching up to do and a lot of respect to earn.

        Awesome question Mitch 🙂

      6. I’ll add a comment to that question of the women police officers… There aren’t that many women police officers and it is a big step for them to be in that kind of power over people. Women are fighting their way to be equal to men. Women are looked at as sex objects most of the time, as Sarah said. Our society needs to step away from that outlook on women and start treating them with respect. It is something that will hopefully eventually happen here. Our country has already gone through so many positive changes, its just another step forward to make the U.S. a better place.

      7. I agree with Amelia. I think that our country is on the way to equality for both men and women. I think that it is something that will take a very looonnggg time to do; if at all. There have been so many positive changes recently with us having an African-American president, allowing for same-sex couples to marry, etc. which leads me to believe we are well on our way to accepting the differences in one another.

  4. I completely agree with your statement about how knowing your rights will help a lot. On the second part, I’m not too convinced. My father who is an American citizen was pulled over the other day for no reason whatsoever. He wasn’t speeding, swerving, reckless driving, wrong registration, nothing. The cop let him go after searching the car and my father as well. My father, absolutely livid, went down to the Streamwood Police Department to complain about the incident, and nothing was done. The true reason why he was pulled over? For driving a beat-up 1987 Chevy and having that dark skin. Rights help many citizens every day, but for the ones that they don’t, it makes them question what the rights really mean.

  5. My question is why do police officers need to fill a quota? Aren’t they supposed to be out there protecting people from harm and making sure people, no matter what color, race.. etc. aren’t doing harm to others. They shouldn’t have to be out there searching for a certain someone and penalizing them for not doing anything wrong. I agree with Sarah that the police abuse their powers of the law. Wasn’t there a little serp on the news a few weeks ago that some police officers are drinking and driving. Off duty of course but they are still officers of the law. Everyone makes mistakes but they think that they can get away with them, and most of the time they do.

    1. Exactly. Why do police officers NEED to meet quotas? Personally, as long as I’m still hearing about murder, rape, theft, kidnapping, etc.- I could care less about how many people got pulled over because their license plate light was out.

      And there are some police officers who believe they can get away with illegal actions. I personally know situations where this has been the case. And I think we’re all familiar with the whole Stacy Peterson thing. Yes I know, it’s all speculation…but between the facts in that case and the one with his 3rd wife…you can’t help but question his actions and the actions of the police department.

      Bottom line, I do believe citizens should know their rights – but at the same time, will it really make a difference either way?

      1. Police officers are here in the country for one fact only, to enforce the law. This means that it is not their duty to help the citizens of this nation, just to make sure that the laws that govern us are protected and that we must abide by them. Plain and simple, their quotas are just a response in an effort to earn more money for the state. It’s unfair, I know that, but with them being the ‘authorities,’ what are we left to do?

      2. I took a law class in high school and a business law class in my first semester in college. The classes are very much alike and I learned a few nifty tips about what police can and cannot do and about some of the laws in our country. The classes were very educational and I would recommend that people at least take a law class to get to know some of there rights. Police can be very tricky at times and some of them lie and make you do things that you don’t have to do but you feel pressured to do anyway. People need to know there rights.

  6. This is so true, i have to agree with this blog because I go through a lot with cops in my little town and I do not even do anything wrong! Everyday during the summer I and bunch of my friends would hangout at a park and we would play basketball or soccer and even when it was darker we would sit there and talk. We were not being loud, we were not drinking. We were just talking because where should people between the ages 16 and 20 go? There is no real place for us to hangout. We are not 21 to go to bars and even if we were, I do not think we would. I mean how harmful is bunch of teenagers playing basketball! the cops would always pull in, on form one entrance blocking it and the other one from the other side so we wouldn’t want to run, but in the first place, why would we? They would always take our address and drivers license numbers and all of our information telling us we need to get out. Last night I was picking my friend from a park district gym, a cop pulls in behind me flashes his light at me and comes out asking for my DL and asking me questions like how are you? what are you doing? Are you going home now? These questions got me so upset I said right to his face to stop acusing innocent people and start looking for people that might be actually doing something wrong, but hardly in this town and I told him it’s not his business if I go home or not. I mean cops these days have nothing to do in small towns, that is why they go after teenagers. They see a younger person driving and they know it is a perfect target to catch. I do respect their job and I know they are trying to do good but they are not looking where they should be. I have few friends in the police field and they are from my town and they say it themselves that some of their co-workers just do not know what to do and they go for the wrong people. They should start looking in the right places and not go only for teenagers. Teenagers are known to do a lot of harm, but the more the cops will push them the more it will be happening and nothing will ever be resolved.

  7. I agree with Mitch that if you know your rights, that’s automatically a major help in itself. And daisy couldn’t have said it any better, the cops don’t care about abiding by their own laws. They have pulled me over, several times for DWB, or what we call ‘Driving While Black’! I have recieved numerous tickets for bogus violations that I didn’t commit, but when you try to fight them you never win in the end. In fact, when you do down to the station they look at you as if you’re joking for even wasting time to come speak your mind. And as far as meeting quotas. that is so true as well. They like to sit around late at night with nothing to do and pull you over and accuse you of speeding and reckless driving just to make quota and the worst part is paying the crazy prices for these tickets.

    1. Ha, Charles, I COMPLETELY understand your humor. My father’s friends have that little acronym joke as well, except it’s DWM (driving while mexican). One guy that truly captures what you are saying and that has put this profiling and how our rights our restricted is a character on YouTube, a.k.a. Mr. Chi-City. He shows us proof of how even though the police gives you a ticket, you can’t really do anything about it.
      I added the link to his clip… please note it contains explicit language, but the point that is made is very correct. To skip the explicit language, I timed it between 3:48 to 4:57, and that’s the main part that I wanted to point out.

    2. Charles, I totally agree with you and with Daisy. The police have nothing to do and while they are working their night shift they hide in parking lots or I even saw a cops parking by schools, people’s houses, and all it’s ridiculous! So what when someone drives home at 3 in the morning. They have to be drunk or be up to no good? Some people just work nights! and just because they are teenagers or of a different race they have to be doing something wrong? no, they are maybe just trying to go home and sleep because they just left work. I am frustrated with our laws these days and how the cops treat people. They barely do any good anyway. They do not look for trouble they are just way too bored and of course they need to make their number of tickets by the end of the month, so of course who is the easiest target? teenagers, and they get these stupid tickets for completely no reason. and if you want to say something back you cannot because if you offend them, or that is what they can say your in even more trouble. Going to court? waste of your money, you will never win with them.

  8. Well, in response to all of the comments about why police need a Quota… I ask, Why do we need a minimum wage? Why do we need video cameras at work? Why do we lock our doors when we leave? Because these questions seem like they have simple answers just as I believe the reason for a quota is a simple answer. I can think of two reasons immediately for having a quota. The first is that we need to understand that the police department is a business just like any other. Quotas are their ‘sales’, just like a clothing store sells clothes… the police sell tickets. I do agree that some of the means they meet quotas are unfair and am not disputing that, only that I believe there is a reason to have quotas. The second reason I believe police need a quota is because, without it, the police will have no motivation whatsoever to even pull people over for speeding. It is the same reason for commissions and bonuses… to motivate workers.

    1. Mitch, I see where your coming from and I do have to agree with you. When they do their real job it is perfectly fine if I do get pulled over for a reason like speeding. Ok I’ll agree I was speeding and I’m not gonna blame the cops for pulling me over, but if they follow you from one side to the other side of the town and then pull you over and really have no reason when you asked them why you got pulled over that is what is pissing people off. In my town 6 months ago about 15 cars got robbed in a period of 2 weeks. Two of those cars were my neighbors, so how safe should I feel about our police enforcement? They didn’t even caught the criminals until one guy whose car they were trying to rob caught them. But then the police is kicking normal kids out of the park because they are playing basketball. What about when someone does get pulled over, why is there like 10 cops showing up? Because they have nothing to do! If they did their job right and pulled people over for a reason I will totally support your idea, but they do not do that.

    2. I don’t fully agree with Mitch on the whole filling their quotas. They don’t need to fill a quota if people aren’t doing anything wrong. If that is why they are getting payed by filling their quota then that is wrong. Also, why would they need motivation to pull people over? If they’re getting a base pay rate then they should do there job anyway. The police don’t make any sense to me. They need to find a different way to run everything.

      1. Yes, they are getting paid… but I was referring to the police department itself… where does the police department get its money from? The tickets. They need to make money in order to pay its officers. And I didn’t mean that police should fill their quotas by pulling anyone and everyone over… I am simply saying that I feel there is a need for a quota to exist. I also feel that the quota that is set may be too high and that is some of the reason that police resort to pulling over every person on the road they can. But as I said before, I am only stating that I feel there is a need for a quota… not that I agree how the police go about achieving it.

      2. Amelia, I definitely agree with Mitch here because yes, they are getting their pay, but they have quotas to fulfill because the police departments make them. It’s a fact. Why else do police officers make sure to give people speeding tickets? For example, my friend was driving around with his mother and it was a 35 speed zone, she was going 37 which she assumed to be okay because most people do. A cop pulled her over and she politely protested that it was just 2 miles over. The cop rudely replied, “Well, it wasn’t 35 was it?” What was the point of that? To make sure the laws are governed? No, it was just the desperate attempt of some cop to fill his quota for the day.

      3. Ok, I get what you are saying now, Mitch. I was misunderstanding what you had said before. The police are getting desperate for money and they will do anything they can to fill there quota for the department. A question I have is what will happen to them if they aren’t able to fill there quota? Or does that not happen because they pull people over for the dumbest things. Like one time my sister was driving and noone else was around and she did a california stop (a half stop roll through the sign) and a cop was just turning the corner on to the street and he pulled us over. Most people don’t fully stop anyways, not unless there are other people there. I thought it was silly. I agree with you, also, Mitch, that the quotas that they set are probably too high.

      4. Well, the scenario with you and your sister probably isn’t a fair example of police being unfair since she technically did violate a law… But I still understand what you are trying to say. And to answer your question… I think that if police do not meet their quota, it is just like a salary worker not working the required 40 hours a week… It probably goes under review and if deemed understandable, the case is dismissed; however, if there is no reason for the officer to fall short of the quota, they would probably get written warnings. I am sure that if this re-occurs a couple more times, the officer would be fired.

  9. hahaha… I love this story, I wouldn’t have enough space to write of how many instances similar to this that I have been in. Although this article is right on many levels, there is one truth that we might not like to admit. We as teenagers create a certain culture that gets a pretty bad rap. How many times have you heard stories about the party where everybody got smashed, or got busted by the cops? And I’m sure we all know someone who has drivin home drunk before. We know people who smoke or deal weed, we know people who sell fake IDs, and have parties every weekend. These people might even be you. basically what I’m getting at is, we do a great job of fulfilling the stereotype we all hate. The more of us that get caught for this stuff, the more the cops will be looking for it. I’m not saying that ALL teenagers do this stuff, but come on, let’s be realistic. How many of your friends drink or smoke? Maybe they aren’t your friends but how many people do you know do this? If you dont like it, dont make it easy for them to assume.

    1. Alex, I agree with you. In the news you have heard several stories about teens leaving parties drunk. Some teens are killed while driving drunk. My question is what if a cop stops them, how many lives would have been saved? And also it’s sad to say, but a lot of our teenagers do drugs or smoke pot. So because of all the stories we have heard and read about, or perhaps we even know someone who has done these things. So that’s why teens are stereotyped. Every teen is not innocent, come on let’s be honest

    2. We all know someone who has done something wrong in this world. Smoked, did drugs, drank. Normal, it’s not JUST teenagers. How many older people do the same thing and you do not see as many of them getting in trouble. Going to court if you see other people it’s usually for a speeding ticket or something similar, and if you see teenagers most of them got caught for drinking at a house or something. If they are driving drunk, yes, they should be caught, but if someone is drinking at home and staying there and not disturbing anything, what is the problem? Older people do it all the time and they even drive and for them it is ok to do it? No, it is not. Cops see teenagers as an easy target because they do not know their rights at all.

  10. 4th amendment: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrant shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized.” I carry it around with me. It’s the choice and responsibility of the individual to know their laws. I don’t see the problem here, it’s not like you can’t go on your iphone and find the information. Regarding earlier comments: If you get pulled over and searched for nothing without a warrant it’s your own fault (barring extreme exceptions). Try actually getting arrested for something you believe in and see how you feel. I don’t hate my own stereotype, and/or what I have contributed to it. I smoke and have parties and have been arrested for doing such. It’s the laws that must change.

    1. I totally agree with you! The research says that 90% of American do not know their own rights! 90%!!!!!! That’s almost everyone and the people that do have been to law school or know someone who has probably. People should know their rights and cops do use tricky wording to get you confused so no matter what you agree for them to search you or your car, such as so if you look in your car there is nothing we will find? And if you say yes, there is nothing you will find. Just that yes says they are allowed to search your car. Say that no, I will not let you search my car without a warrant but you will not find anything, or something similar.

    2. Yes, my lawyer gave me a card like that one the last time I got a ticket. The reason is because the officer was very rude and out of line. The lawyer said to keep that card and show it to any officer if they give me a hard time.
      The time I got the ticket is actually an interesting story. The officer pulled me over and told me that he was suspending my license, even though he had no reason or authority to for my violation. I hit a patch of ice and slid through a YELLOW light… yellow, not red. He said that I was in the intersection while the light turned red and therefore had a red light violation… When he pulled me over, he very rudely told me to give him my license and insurance and that I would need a ride home since he was suspending my license. I wasn’t speeding, didn’t say anything rude… He came back from the squad car and gave me a ticket, He said he felt like being nice so he was only going to give me a violation for the red light and not speeding. (at this point you are probably wondering as I did where speeding came into the picture). I asked him about the speeding, he told me that he had been following me for several blocks and that, watching his own speedometer, realized that I was doing 8 over. The funny thing is that, when I told him it was impossible since I just pulled out of my girlfriend’s driveway less than 2 blocks away, he had nothing to say. He said to have a good night and left.
      Glad to say, my lawyer had the case closed an hour before I was even supposed to show for my court date. They deemed the officer was out of line and had no evidence or reason to pull me over.
      But I still think that if everyone carried those cards around it would help remind the police that they aren’t above the laws that were created before them and that the power they have isn’t above all.

      1. I knew this cop when I went to high school. He gave me his card and told me that when I get pulled over or something to just show it to the cop and he will let me go. So is it all about connections now? I think I should be able to say what I think and not get in more trouble. I just do not understand this at all. I never used that card because I thought that is not the way it should be, that if I did something wrong I deserve a ticket but what if I didnt do anything?

  11. I agree 100% with Mitch L., if you know your rights the police cannot take advantage of you and do unlawful things with no probable cause. Another thing is if you have attitude with the police all you are going to do is put yourself in a worse situation. I just try to be as polite as possible, but it is not easy when you feel you have done nothing wrong.

    1. Saunders, I agree with you. If you have an attitude with them when they pull you over and if you feel confident they just want to piss you off and they will give you the ticket. But when you are polite and they feel like they have the charge over you or that you are scared of them they are happy because that is the reaction they want and sometimes, barely, but sometimes they might let you go. But how can you not be mad when you know you did nothing wrong and they pull you over? They think they are tough and all because they are wearing their uniforms. They have no power over anyone!

    2. I agree with you Saunders. If you give them even the slightest attitude then they will give you a ticket. I’ve personally been pulled over once while I was the one driving. It was in Wisconsin on this country road and I was going 66 in a 55mph zone. I pulled over right away and I was like I know I was speeding but if they give me a ticket then it goes on my record.. etc. When he came up to my car he asked for the usual license and registration for the car. Then he asked me if I knew why he had pulled me over. I responded with “yes, I think I was speeding.” It was my fault, so why lie anyway. He let me off with a warning. I was definetly relieved. Now I just watch my speed as much as I can. I’m kind of a lead foot, so I’ve got to watch myself. I guess he didn’t give me a ticket cause it was my first offense or something.

  12. I agree with this article and at the same time I disagree with parts of it as well. I agree that SOME police officers do profile but I think that’s the so called “Dirty Cops.” I disagree with this article because Nathan you kind of made it seem like all cops profile against teens. How can you judge ALL the police men and women out there? Now what you are kind of doing is profiling at a certain stage that ALL police officers profile and look for teens a those of ethnic decent to pull over just because and I disagree with that. I’m sure that’s probably not what you mean but from your article, that’s kind of what I got from it.

    1. I agree with you that sometimes that teenagers like to complain, but if you think about it, cops do not really mess with older people as much as they do with teenagers. older people by that time know their rights and know what to say or what to do. Teenagers usually would either argue with the cops which makes them angry because they feel like they have the authority to speak and ask questions only. Others will just sit there quiet not saying anything because they are too scared of saying anything, so they will just let the cop write them the tickets. I am just saying that teenagers should learn their rights and not be scared to ask questions or speak their mind without the cop getting angry. Don’t we have a freedom of speech?

  13. So many fascinating comments. As I have sat reading them I have wondered how I should address the comments you have posted. And I will do so in two ways. First, I will comment on quotas. It is interesting that this has been the central focus of many of the discussions, when it wasn’t directly mentioned in the blog, and officially, police departments are not legally allowed to have formal quotas any longer. Yes, they have a budget, and some of their income is lined as coming from the issuance of tickets, but officially noone is to be given a quota as to how much they individually are suppose to make. Does that mean it doesn’t happen? Of course it does. Evidence of this can be seen in the fact that most tickets are given at the end of the month or the end of the fiscal cycle, depending on how the money is meted out.

    Fot the second point, I will direct you to a new blog entry post that was written by the same author as above that adresses a similar, but different issue, regarding communication of police officers and a law that may just be a violation of civil rights. Not quite sure where I stand on this issue yet, but I am interested to see how people will respond.

  14. I have many problems with the police profiling. A few stories are, I was driving past a high school going the low 25 mph that was posted. Pass a cop and he pulls out of his hiding spot and pulls me over and ask me for my lisence. I give it to him, he looks at it and says “oh i’m sorry Mr. Howard, have a good day.” and to this day I still believe he just looked at my age and gave it back. Cops are out going for their quotas. They look for the kids with the baseball hat on, the rap and hip-hop music and their seat low. It’s just plain and simple they like to pick on people, especially young adults.

  15. I completely agree with what you are saying. I have been in a similar situation. At the high school I attended in the inner city, the neighborhood was predominately black, and the crime rate was high. As a caucasion to drive through this neighborhood I had a target on my back. I was puleld over several times because the officers figured I was there to buy drugs because I was a minority in the situation. However, I feel it is discriminatory to pull over anybody based on race or age.

  16. I agree with your thoughts to a certain extent. As a future police officer and an experienced intern with a sheriff’s department that is county wide you deal with small town and very high crime city’s as well. A police officer can and will pull you over for any reason he or she feels. I hate to say that but that is just how it is. There are so many driving laws and regulations that are either city wide or county wide that they can pull you over. It sounds unfair, but then again you always hear your parents say life’s not fair. I agree with you a hundred percent that kids should know there rights. If a police officer pulls drive by you and he feels like you are up to no good he has the right to investigate it. From my experience it is all at the discretion of the police officer.

    1. @mchalesmith13
      I agree with you on this often times officers, may pull someone over for the silliest reason. I am finding out more and more each day that sometimes, in my opinion most of the times that an officer may pull someone over and not even have an legitmate reason. It’s sad to say that this teenage girl was pulled over for no reason but, this is life and it happens everyday. So your right life isn’t fair, and it is just a part of life.

  17. After reading this post it makes me feel a little angry when hearing stories about young adults getting unjust treatment. I can relate to this post because I also live in a town that has little crime and don’t get me wrong I am very thankful for that. However I think it is ridiculous how some law enforcement officers treat young people because they know they have the power to do so. Just because my social location has a low crime rate does not mean i should be harassed for being profiled as bad. I have heard of similar stories to this and have also encountered this and I have to question are they really out there to “protect and serve”

    I have the up most respect for law enforcement officers and know they they have a risky job. However I am a believer that there are limits and its not just in the case of the law but with any type of job or career. I think if you are in a certain Job and career you should do it at the best of your ability and not profile, judge, and have a bad attitude because that leads to problems. Just like with teachers I could never understand how some teachers could treat their student (good or bad) with such disrespect and anger when they are in a career that they knew would have to deal with students and children. My big issue is with this is the whole profile and lack of non-communication. I know they need to do there job but they need to do it with respect and treating us with are given rights.

  18. This article just helped to prove just how petty police can be. I do understand that police can pull someone over for whatever reason they choose, but picking on innocent people is what makes me angry. Often times police officers abuse their authority.I also hear stories of how police abuse their authority like pulling someone over because that individual may be riding with four people in the car. Or lying saying that you may have not signaled properly when the real reason maybe that your black riding in a white neighborhood after dark. {no offense}. By seeing how police can be so corrupt makes me understand why so many people dislike the police.

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